[Finance] Fwd: [alafoi1 84945434] Domain "bikemanitoba.ca"'s Registration expires on 2014-02-14!

Mark Cohoe mcohoe at casch.com
Wed Jan 29 13:48:34 PST 2014


I agree that we should just let he items under 3 expire.

Mark

On 29/01/2014 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
> This is part of the larger question of how many domains we have and 
> why.  It's also not really urgent.  Even if we let it lapse there is a 
> grace period of several months when we can get it back.
>
> There are several reasons for us to lease and control a domain.
>
>  1. As a primary access point that we advertise as our web presence.
>       * biketothefuture.org
>       * bikewinnipeg.ca
>       * bicyclevaletwinnipeg.ca
>       * biketoworkdaywinnipeg.org
>       * winnipegbikeweek.com
>  2. Access points that we may want to use in the future
>       * bikemanitoba.ca
>       * ibikeivote.ca
>  3. Domains we want to protect from use by other people.  This is
>     based on the idea that someone would want to set up a website that
>     looks like it might be us but which attacks or interferes with our
>     purposes.
>       * bikewinnipeg.org
>       * bikewpg.ca
>       * bikewpg.com
>       * bikewpg.org
>
> We have two primary domains under our control: biketothefuture which 
> needs a retirement plan and bikewinnipeg, the real us. The BVW domain 
> is under Dave Weiser's control, or actually his wife who works for the 
> web service.  We don't know how it gets paid for.  The two 
> bike-to-work domains are not directly used by us but they are 
> controlled under our account.  Nevertheless I don't actually know who 
> pays for them.
>
> bikemanitoba might at one time have been our name and may yet be the 
> name of another, or an umbrella, group in the future.  I think it 
> would be prudent to hang onto it.
>
> The defensive domains are another story.  This is only a short list of 
> all the potential look-alike domains that hostile people might use 
> against us.  I question the existence of the threat and the expense of 
> maintaining this defense.
>
> There is also the idea that some of the defensive names might be used 
> as "alternate access" to our website.  I don't see this as very 
> useful.  It's basically unergonomic in that it leads people to believe 
> that these other names are our real name.  If we let that happen we 
> are stuck with those names forever.
>
> This whole area needs further documentation (which I'm working on) to 
> establish exactly what we own and how we control it. Domain names are 
> only part of it.  There is: Domain registration; Web Service 
> contracts; Website admin access. These three levels of control need to 
> be documented for all our sites.
>
> In the mean time let's renew bikemanitoba.ca.  As far as I know most 
> registrars charge $10 or less for .com and .org domains but everybody 
> seems to want $13 or more for .ca domains.
>
>     --Bill
>
> On 14-01-28 14:43, Bike Winnipeg wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We will need to make a decision on whether or not to renew the 
>> bikemanitoba.ca <http://bikemanitoba.ca> domain name. The cost to 
>> renew would be $14 USD via Dreamhost. While there are cheaper options 
>> for renwing, they would also require a transfer fee that would end up 
>> costing more.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *DreamHost Registration Service* <support at dreamhost.com 
>> <mailto:support at dreamhost.com>>
>> Date: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:12 AM
>> Subject: [alafoi1 84945434] Domain "bikemanitoba.ca 
>> <http://bikemanitoba.ca>"'s Registration expires on 2014-02-14!
>> To: biketothefuture at gmail.com <mailto:biketothefuture at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> "bikemanitoba.ca <http://bikemanitoba.ca>"'s Registration expires on 
>> 2014-02-14!
>>
>> (Note: if you look at the whois data for this domain, you MAY
>> see an expiration date of one year later. This DOES NOT mean
>> the domain has been renewed! The registry "auto-renews" all
>> domains, but they are then deleted if not EXPLICITLY renewed.)
>>
>> This domain will expire unless you explicitly renew it at the
>>
>>  Domain > Registration section of our web panel at
>>
>> https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=domain.registration
>>
>> ** Even *if* your renewal is free, your hosting is not!
>>
>> ** If you renew a domain for free and then cancel your hosting,
>> you will then have to pay for the domain registration.
>>
>> ** Even if you let your registration expire, your *hosting* will
>> renew and you WILL BE CHARGED unless you close your account at:
>>
>> https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=billing.accounts
>>
>> Also, you might want to change your renewal settings using the
>> Domain > Registration area...
>>
>>        "Yes" : We will always make sure your domain gets renewed.
>>        "Ask" : Your current setting, we just send you these emails.
>> "Let Expire" : We will not bug you, nor will we renew your domain.
>>
>>
>> Remember, if your domain registration expires:
>>
>> 1.  Your web site at that domain will stop working.
>> 2.  Your email at that domain will stop working.
>> 3.  After about 30 days the domain will be available for anyone
>>     in the world to register again!
>>
>> Thanks for choosing DreamHost!
>> The Happy DreamHost Domain Registration Team
>>
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